6 comments on “Evolution of Ignorance

  1. The question I have about evolution is that the first man, or the first dog or the first cat had to be sired by a non-human, a non-dog and a non-cat; and then both a male and a female human, dog or cat had to be sired at the same time in the same place.

    We observe that dogs only beget dogs and cats only beget cats and so forth.

    Where have we ever observed an animal give birth to an animal not of its own kind?

    That would be never.

    And since science is based on what is observable, evolution cannot be science.

    Can you help me out with this?

    • I think something that us humans struggle with (I know I do) is the scale and span of the universe we live in. It is so much greater and so much older than we can really comprehend. This factors into your question. Evolution happened on such a long time scale that it’s hard to imagine just how infinitesimally small the changes were. A mother cat who gives birth to a cat would see no difference between herself and her offspring. In fact, she would see no visible difference between her and her fifth generation offspring. There will be greater variation in each generation of any species then there is between generations! The changes that happen at a genetic level do not change morphology in one generation. They don’t change in ten generations. They change over hundreds of generations and in some cases, thousands. This is not easy to visualize. We share a common ancestor with apes. That ancestor was not necessarily an ape – apes did not “turn” into humans. We just share a common ancestor which means that small changes accumulated in different directions, not in a linear fashion.

      I acknowledge that this is not always easy to understand. The best book I have ever read on the subject is Richard Dawkins “Greatest Show in Earth”. While he now has a reputation as an atheist, at heart (and at practice) he is truly a scientist. An evolutionary biologist. His book is clear, easy to follow and very well-written. He actually doesn’t talk about God/atheism much at all (although he is quick to dismiss creationism – which is NOT the same as religion. There are many religious people who fully embrace evolution) so it is a good place to start.

      Not sure if that helps?

      • According to the fossil record, the proliferation of species happens suddenly, the Cambrian Explosion for example.

        And right after the dinosaurs went extinct the mammals exploded.

        Even given an extended time period, it would still be necessary for the first human male and female to be sired by non-humans.

        Since there is so much diversity observation of the change from one species to another should be common.

        But it isn’t.

    • You seem to be misunderstanding the Cambrian explosion. The Cambrian period lasted 53 million years; “explosion” is a relative term; it is mostly a measure that over those millions and millions of years, the earth’s atmosphere and environments were conducive to developing life (mostly mammalian). If you care to learn some about it, here is some info:
      http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC301.html
      http://www.livescience.com/28098-cambrian-period.html

      Your next question was answered quite well by Atheist Mom. You just don’t seem to like the answer. If you care about “observable” science, this link has some info about the fruit fly experiment where scientists caused fruit flies to exhibit speciation in a lab. In other words, they did precisely what you say “never” happens or is not observable. It would not be never. Look up Darwin’s finches, or even the other examples of speciation on the link below:
      http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_45

      “The Greatest Show on Earth” explains precisely how one thing ends up as another thing. It is not at all that a cat gives birth to a non-cat; it is easy to understand if you read about how it happens. It is also fascinating.

      Francis Collins, a bible-believing evangelical Christian, head of the NIH, and leader of the Human Genome Project, points out that one doesn’t need anything but a gene to prove evolution….all that information is in there. You don’t even need fossils. It’s in the gene.

      He also said this, and please bear in mind that this is one of the most qualified humans on the planet to make this observation from a scientific perspective:

      “It’s also now been possible to compare our DNA with that of many other species. The evidence supporting the idea that all living things are descended from a common ancestor is truly overwhelming.

      I would not necessarily wish that to be so, as a Bible-believing Christian. But it is so. It does not serve faith well to try to deny that.

      But I have no difficulty putting that together with what I believe as a Christian because I believe that God had a plan to create creatures with whom he could have fellowship, in whom he could inspire [the] moral law, in whom he could infuse the soul, and who he would give free will as a gift for us to make decisions about our own behavior, a gift which we oftentimes utilize to do the wrong thing.

      I believe God used the mechanism of evolution to achieve that goal. And while that may seem to us who are limited by this axis of time as a very long, drawn-out process, it wasn’t long and drawn-out to God. And it wasn’t random to God.

      [He] had the plan all along of how that would turn out. There was no ambiguity about that.”

  2. Hi, I cannot ring on on the theory of evolution due to my very small understanding of it at this point in time. However, like yourself, I also looked into the faces and into the eyes of the people holding the signs. They are common every day people. They have jobs, family and bills just like the rest of us. The one thing that separates us from them is our lack of belief and our ability to think critically. You are absolutely correct in saying that they are misinformed.

    I remember walking through life with my god-glasses on with a closed mind. Many people tried to get past my closed mind and I labelled them false prophets and did everything I could to steer clear of them. Looking back now, I wish I would have listened and considered what they were telling me. I would not have wasted 35 years of my life. Now, I am one of those people asking people to read their Bible with reason and logic. Thanks for your post and I will follow your blog to read future post.

    http://noreligionrequired.wordpress.com
    http://www.facebook.com/noreligionreq

  3. Agree with you about the appalling lack of critical thinking skills, but I would say that they probably didn’t all go through the public school system, as you say they presumably did. There are so many people being homeschooled, which can be an assault on the very idea of “getting an education” (hi, let me just keep learning from and with the same person/people I do EVERYTHING ELSE with, year after year) and also in the U.S. (where this debate was, right? correct me if I’m wrong) there are so very many people who go to private schools, many of which are religious.

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